we have john zarrella at jpl there is pasadena. we also have phil black who is in moscow because the russians are playing a significant role in this mission. and they have a lot of experience at sending probes to mars. a lot of it successful. but let's go back to john at jpl. john, any more heart beat? any more signs of life, if you like? >> yeah, you know, what you're going to do with this vehicle when they talk about looking for the, you know, the signs of life, they are getting these little bleeps right now from curiosity. that it's alive. but now as we are watching images here, it is still very quiet. they are all in great anticipation. waiting as everybody is, for that signal to be relayed back to earth, that says, hey, i'm here. and i'm alive. and i'm well on the surface. and it is still going to be a few minutes, john, before we have that first confirmation and as we were talking earlier, it even could be quite a bit longer than that if the things don't align just right. >> i make it just about six minutes, hopefully, before